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03/21/2016 5:26 AM ·Spoilers

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  • @Ed: But you are correct. We don't know for sure. Science doesn't claim to know everything. I don't know everything...but the thing is, I'm not afraid to admit it, and neither is Science. I don't understand how people can't grasp how things simply can happen by chance.

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  • @Ed: The fact is, thought did happen by chance. We have no idea where it came from, but it's obviously here. The fact that you and I were even born was due to chance. Millions of other human beings could have been born instead of us.

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  • @Hikaru: I apologize immensely. We appear to have hijacked this comment section...

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  • Ed

    04/25/2016 2:02 PM ·Spoilers

    So the fact that I exist is proof that I exist by chance? How is that any different from stating that the fact that I exist is proof of Creation? I've heard all the evolutionary evidence... Like Creationist evidence, it doesn't stack up to scrutiny. The fossil record? No missing links. The complete geologic column exists nowhere on the earth. We have a Cambrian Explosion of all types of

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  • Ed

    04/25/2016 2:05 PM ·Spoilers

    creatures in all layers of strata, not a simple-to-complex arrangement. Some creatures, like Homo Erectus, were found in the same strata as their supposed descendant (like man) within a couple miles of each other. There is no way to tell the age of a rock, whether or use radiometric dating or otherwise, without making assumptions and throwing yourself into circular reasoning.

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  • Ed

    04/25/2016 2:08 PM ·Spoilers

    Mutating viruses? They mutate, yes, but they're still the same creature. They survive certain medications now, but they have never been observed to change into a different virus, just as I am still a human once I gain an immunity to polio. It's the same case with Peppered Moths. Do brown moths survive on white trees? No. Did they ever change into white moths? They did not. White moths never

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  • Ed

    04/25/2016 2:12 PM ·Spoilers

    changed into anything more than moths, either. Genetics? The fact that traits pass down from one generation to the next does not mean that new, improving traits spontaneously appear in the gene pool. Speaking of which, how did certain traits appear in the gene pool? Things as incredibly complex as the respiratory system or nervous obviously didn't take millions of years to develop.

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  • Ed

    04/25/2016 2:14 PM ·Spoilers

    The first living creature wouldn't have lasted long if they did. I don't grasp the concept of life happening by chance because science has proven that spontaneous generation does not happen. The one scientist who tried to prove otherwise by creating artificial life had to intervene in its creation before the same processes which formed his work destroyed it. There's simply no rhyme or reason

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  • Ed

    04/25/2016 2:16 PM ·Spoilers

    to the notion that an explosion which originated from nothing led to the creation of the most wildly complex organisms imaginable. Uh, yeah Hikaru, what Groggy said. We can move this elsewhere if you'd like. =P

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  • @Ed: Yes it is, in fact. Like I said, over a million other people could have been born from the same parents as you instead of you. As for the fossil record, define "no missing links." I don't really understand what you mean by that. And of course the complete geologic column doesn't exist anywhere on Earth. Plate tectonics has made that impossible, because rock is always being recycled.

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  • @Ed: Also, how exactly is the use of radiometric dating throwing oneself into a loop of circular reasoning? Chemists have determined the half-lives of certain isotopes, some of which last for thousands of years. By measuring the percentage of how much of the isotope is left in the rock can give us an estimate on how old the rock is. We do however, have to use different isotopes for different ages.

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  • @Ed: As for virus mutations, plenty of viruses mutate into completely new strains of viruses. For example: Influenza. Every strain of the flu virus originated from a single strain. That's why there are so many different strains of the flu virus.

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  • @Ed: Where did I say that peppered moths changed. The moths themselves didn't change. The selection pressure in the habitat of the moths changed to cause the dark peppered moths to become better camouflaged from predators, hence why they survived. The gene pool gradually shifted over to favor the dark peppered moths because they were more "fit" for survival.

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  • @Ed: As for genetics, yes, new traits do spontaneously appear in the gene pool. They do so by a mechanism that we call, "mutation." People who have blue eyes have them because a single person had a mutation in their DNA in Europe thousands of years ago, and it was obviously passed on to their offspring.

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  • @Ed: Here's the thing: Just because you do not understand something does not prove that it doesn't exist. This brings me to the whole "G@d of the Gaps" way of thinking. Just because no one knows the answer to something does not immediately mean that G@d did it. We have plenty of evidence to support the Big Bang theory, but we don't know 100% that that's what happened.

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  • @Ed: Because we have so much evidence for it, the scientific community has accepted this as the best possible explanation for the origin of the universe. There is not one single shred of evidence in existence that shows that the universe could have been created by a divine being. That's one reason as to why I choose to reject that concept.

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  • @Ed: Where should we continue this discussion? Should I make a post for you to comment on my profile? I'm also running out of posts, so if we continue this discussion elsewhere, I might have to use my alt to continue commenting.

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  • @Ed: One more thing: The reason as to why many fossils of human ancestors have been found in the same strata of rock is because those species coexisted. There were times when the span of existence for these species overlapped. For example: A. robustus, H. habilis, and H. erectus at one point existed at the same time. Here's a graphic of that: http://www.biology-pages.info/H/HomininTimeline.png

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  • Ed

    04/25/2016 8:45 PM ·Spoilers

    Yes, you can make a post for this if you'd like. Not enough room here for me to give a proper reply, in any case.

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  • @Ed: Done. The post says, "Grab a drink and some popcorn, folks. This is gonna be good."

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