The only games similar are the new DK and Mario as both are platformers but even they

have monumental differences between each other. They aren't the same kind of game.

RPGs on Nintendo consoles are usually third party oriented as well. "X" being the only first party

one announced for Wii U. No sports games as the primary provider of them, EA, are still salty

over the whole Origin deal.

As I said before, Nintendo will have more announcements to make. Heck, we haven't heard

anything on FE x SMT since it was announced and that's likely to be an SRPG.

greedy companies waste them all, we have an second rpg annoynced but no info its smt x fire emblem

And that's the thing, how often do gaming companies cover in genres that Nintendo doesn't?

That has always been a sticking point with me because some third parties make it seem as if they

can't compete with Nintendo so why not create games in genres that Nintendo doesn't normally

produce titles for? When it comes to Nintendo platforms, third parties tend to be clueless.

nintendo has been living by casual players and they tried to change that with wii u but so far fail

"X" doesn't have a solid release date either, it's simply 2014 and we've gotten media on that.

Even Miyamoto said we may see the new Zelda U game after WindWaker HD is finished and that could

end up as a 2014/2015 game. We'll see more from FE x SMT in due time, I'm sure.

I'm sure we could see Zelda before then, if you haven't noticed Nintendo has no problem

revealing big games in their Directs versus events like GDC, E3 or Tokyo Games Show.

Nintendo has a LOT of teams under their wing and many of their studios have yet to show off

projects for either 3DS or Wii U. Not to mention the collaborative efforts that Nintendo themselves

have said are in the works with third parties. I'm sure when Nintendo announced all those

games back in January nobody knew about their partnership with Sega which was announced in May

and involves games that were developed as early on as 2010 at least.

Just recently Aonuma mentioned that the WWHD team will merge with the Zelda U team meaning that

Nintendo are already well under way with Wii U's Zelda. They can do more than one project at a time.

nice debate guys

I wouldn't count on it. Up to E3 2008 Nintendo released a steady stream of first party

titles from launch through to holiday 2007. It makes sense as all of their teams had pulled in

development of software for release those periods other than projects we had no idea about

such as Punch Out, Excitebots, Sin and Punishment and others that came out afterward.

If anything it just highlights what I'm saying about Nintendo's ongoing development, games

are constantly in the pipeline whether or not we know about them. Nintendo doesn't just develop

up until a certain point and just stops and waits to develop again. And the support they have

going for Wii U now I seriously doubt is tapping their development teams to that same degree.

If... IF a software drought were to occur, I don't expect it to happen in 2014.

I seriously doubt Retro had to use a third of their team for MK7, where did you even read that?

I remember that interview, I don't recall him saying a third of his team had to work on MK7

Wait... so you used "probably" to describe what their small project was. Which means you're

just speculating and don't actually know, I take it?

The article with Kelbaugh is the IGN one regarding the future of Metroid, right?

Because in that one he talks about members of the team working on MK7 and helping Monster

Games with the 3DS DKCR but never says anything about it tapping their development staff

in any significant way. At all.

He holds that the majority of staff stayed focused on the primary project which was Tropical Freeze.

I know, but a lot of your claims are falling to little more than speculation like track design

in MK7 taking up a chunk of the team. What is that based on, exactly?

True, but that doesn't mean Retro was involved. After all, Nintendoland is a pretty game

as well so it's not as if Nintendo's EAD devs aren't capable of producing good graphics.

I also found the interview about using the Gamepad in a new Metroid, it was by Venturebeat

and neither Kelbaugh or Tanabe talked at all about what portion of Retro's team were on other games.

You said it was the one where he and Tanabe were discussing gimmicks. That's the only one

I can find that fits what you were describing.

Nintendoland didn't start as a Wii game though, so it's a bit disingenuous to say it was just

Wii game on HD steroids.

The point I was making is that Nintendo's internal teams like EAD which worked on Nintendoland

and now working on Mario Kart 8 are capable of producing good graphics. MK8 is a step above

Adam's initial point stands I think. Even if we get 1 awesome title per month from N, its not enough

Nintendoland for sure but that's the norm as teams are able to get more out of the hardware.

without 3rd parties. Which is a pity for anyone who can't game on PC as well.