• Patrick

    07/09/2015 11:37 AM ·Spoilers

    Pick two or three pokes you really want in the team. Then build around those pokes, covering weaknesses and preparing for the most common situations.

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  • Malcolm 02

    07/09/2015 11:38 AM ·Spoilers

    Thing is i don't know good movesets for that kinda thing

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  • Patrick

    07/09/2015 11:40 AM ·Spoilers

    Go search movesets on the Internet. That is how I learned. There is often more than one moveset for a pokemon, each with a specific role.

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  • Eli

    07/09/2015 11:40 AM ·Spoilers

    The first thing you need to think of is what tier you want to play in.

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  • Ender

    07/09/2015 11:40 AM ·Spoilers

    I can help you with the whole breeding thing, what pokémon do you have in mind?

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  • Malcolm 02

    07/09/2015 11:40 AM ·Spoilers

    Oh UU tier.

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  • Ender

    07/09/2015 11:43 AM ·Spoilers

    I have like 4 leftover UU pokémon I don't use anymore.

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  • Malcolm 02

    07/09/2015 11:43 AM ·Spoilers

    @Ender: uhm. Sableye. I want one at least to be my mega wall.

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  • Eli

    07/09/2015 11:44 AM ·Spoilers

    So now that you have your tier, us there a certain pokemon you want to center your team around.

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  • Malcolm 02

    07/09/2015 11:45 AM ·Spoilers

    Well i said sableye, but if it fails i might need a spike setter. Which is best?

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  • Malcolm 02

    07/09/2015 11:46 AM ·Spoilers

    What are they Ender?

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  • Patrick

    07/09/2015 11:47 AM ·Spoilers

    Okay. So you want Sableye... Let's start there. Next, either add another pokemon or two to make the "core" of your team or build around Mega Sableye. Consider pokemon that cover his weaknesses. It's better to plan out the team before you start breeding. This way, you don't beed something you don't need.

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  • Ender

    07/09/2015 11:48 AM ·Spoilers

    A Donphan and a mega Sceptile, I gave the rest away already.

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  • Malcolm 02

    07/09/2015 11:50 AM ·Spoilers

    Well its only weakness is fairy so maybe skuntank with a balloon so ground wont get it and its dark/poison right so psychich cant hit it? And maybe a steel type like forretress? Isn't that a spike setter? I forget.

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  • Ender

    07/09/2015 11:51 AM ·Spoilers

    Sableye and mega Sableye are OU though.

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  • Malcolm 02

    07/09/2015 11:52 AM ·Spoilers

    Oh really? I might try OU soon but i could do it instead of UU

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  • Eli

    07/09/2015 11:54 AM ·Spoilers

    Try chesnaught or cloyster as a spike setter.

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  • Patrick

    07/09/2015 11:55 AM ·Spoilers

    Also keep in mind the roles pokemon play. You want a pokemon that covers weaknesses of another and plays the role you need in your team. That is a good start. Foretress would definateky help with setting/removing hazards. So, now you have a physical wall (Sableye and Foretress — to an extent). What role do you need sky tank to play? And what other roles do you need in your team?

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  • Ender

    07/09/2015 11:56 AM ·Spoilers

    Alakazam is like the best revenge killer in OU, and I have an extra one.

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  • Patrick

    07/09/2015 11:57 AM ·Spoilers

    @Ender: Wgich one, mega or regular? I've always used Mega as a sweaper...

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  • Malcolm 02

    07/09/2015 11:57 AM ·Spoilers

    Ok So far mega sableye and skuntank are good choices aren't they? I'm not sure though but cloyster could work since chesnaught has more weaknesses and i don't want to risk it so i kinda want as least weaknesses possible but good at dealing damage too.

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  • Patrick

    07/09/2015 12:00 PM ·Spoilers

    Wait, I'm confused. Are you doing OU or UU....?

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  • Ender

    07/09/2015 12:01 PM ·Spoilers

    I've always used it as regular to send out when one of my pokémon faints. It's usually fast enough to take it out in one shot, but if it isn't the focus sash will keep it alive to destroy it.

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  • Malcolm 02

    07/09/2015 12:01 PM ·Spoilers

    But cloyster cant use rapid spin can it? I forgot about removing hazards. And alakazam sounds like a good idea too. I'm only doing this because of battle spot having too many competitive players so i lose alot but that's part of learning so i don't mind.

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  • Malcolm 02

    07/09/2015 12:02 PM ·Spoilers

    I changed, OU has better choices.

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  • Patrick

    07/09/2015 12:05 PM ·Spoilers

    Okay. In that case, I'd say go with Excadrill. It can use Rapid Spin to get rid of hazards that slip by Mega Sableye, and cover its Fairy weakness (being a steel type). Though, you do have to worry about pokemon like Azumarill now.

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  • Malcolm 02

    07/09/2015 12:05 PM ·Spoilers

    I'm not sure about a skuntank with an air balloon but it wont be hit by psychic or ground ifi do so so it could help sableye against fairy types.

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  • Malcolm 02

    07/09/2015 12:07 PM ·Spoilers

    Oh, ok so that's another good choice but there are so many so that's why i needed help.

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  • Patrick

    07/09/2015 12:10 PM ·Spoilers

    Well, now you have two or three pokes (are you still using skuntank?). Next, work on covering excadrill's fire, water, and ground weakness (I alsahs give him an Air Ballon to give him some flexibility against ground types).

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  • Patrick

    07/09/2015 12:12 PM ·Spoilers

    Oh, and don't forget Excadrill's fighting weakness...

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  • Malcolm 02

    07/09/2015 12:12 PM ·Spoilers

    Skuntank and excadrill are both support for sableye but not at the same time unless i need to. So a water type would be next, i see many people use milotic but i don't know.

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  • Malcolm 02

    07/09/2015 12:14 PM ·Spoilers

    Sylveon is OU too isn't it?

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  • Patrick

    07/09/2015 12:15 PM ·Spoilers

    Okay. Do you think Milotic can fit in? If so, what weaknesses does that cover. Does it add more things you need to worry about? What role do you need Milotic to play?

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  • Malcolm 02

    07/09/2015 12:18 PM ·Spoilers

    It can counter excadrill's fire and ground weakneeses so it will be out with it, it would most likely be the defensive special attacker. The item i don't know, probably leftovers.

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  • Malcolm 02

    07/09/2015 12:19 PM ·Spoilers

    You still there Ender?

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  • Malcolm 02

    07/09/2015 12:23 PM ·Spoilers

    And my flying type would be gliscor with poison heal and a toxic orb. I don't know its role yet. But i think that's all 6 members, sabeleye, skuntank, excadrill, milotic, sylveon? and gliscor?

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  • Eli

    07/09/2015 12:23 PM ·Spoilers

    Do you want milotic to be a tank.

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  • Malcolm 02

    07/09/2015 12:24 PM ·Spoilers

    It is a tank already isn't it? But if it can be tankier I'd definitely want it.

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  • Ender

    07/09/2015 12:26 PM ·Spoilers

    I have a prfect 6 IV Milotic and a 5IV toxic stall gliscor if you need those.

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  • Patrick

    07/09/2015 12:28 PM ·Spoilers

    You can use Gliscor. But realize that it would mean you will have two pokemon weak to water.

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  • Malcolm 02

    07/09/2015 12:29 PM ·Spoilers

    I know but people use them really well and if i get good ones i might be able to too. And ender, that would be great thanks!

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  • Ender

    07/09/2015 12:33 PM ·Spoilers

    I also have many hidden ability eevee's if you want me to make you a sylveon.

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  • Eli

    07/09/2015 12:34 PM ·Spoilers

    I just thought of a interesting moveset for milotic. milotic @ leftovers nature: Bold 252 Def / 248 sDef / 8 Hp aquaring substitute dragon tail scald It sets up substitute and aquaring, then uses dragon tail to pile on spike/rocks.

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  • Malcolm 02

    07/09/2015 12:35 PM ·Spoilers

    Thanks Ender, that's awesome! :D

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  • Malcolm 02

    07/09/2015 12:38 PM ·Spoilers

    Thanks Eli! So gliscor can use stealth rocks but who can use spikes, can excadrill do that?

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  • Eli

    07/09/2015 12:40 PM ·Spoilers

    excadrill can't use spikes.

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  • Patrick

    07/09/2015 12:41 PM ·Spoilers

    @elli: I've tried something like that. Too many Sylveons running around though. Hyper voice just goes through the sub. And I can't phase them out because of that Dragon immunity.

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  • Malcolm 02

    07/09/2015 12:41 PM ·Spoilers

    Oh so I'm back to forretress for that.. It sets them and can get rid of them.

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  • Ender

    07/09/2015 12:42 PM ·Spoilers

    I was already breeding for a Sylveon anyways, and my milotic has 252 Sp.Def 126 HP and 126 Sp.Atk. It knows Scald, recover, dragon tail, and hydro pump(I didn't know what else to put on it.)

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  • Malcolm 02

    07/09/2015 12:42 PM ·Spoilers

    Ok so whirlwind is a better switch move?

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  • Malcolm 02

    07/09/2015 12:49 PM ·Spoilers

    I have to go on the train now so ill be back in an hour

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  • Eli

    07/09/2015 12:55 PM ·Spoilers

    @Patrick, your right about the sylveons running around, and thats why milotic has scald. sylveon won't even do half damage to milotic unless its a crit.

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  • Malcolm 02

    07/09/2015 1:22 PM ·Spoilers

    Never mind the train has WiFi. Thankfully. Sorry about that

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  • Eli

    07/09/2015 1:29 PM ·Spoilers

    I'm back.

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  • Malcolm 02

    07/09/2015 1:30 PM ·Spoilers

    Hey

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  • Eli

    07/09/2015 1:36 PM ·Spoilers

    So do you have your movesets planned out for your pokemon.

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  • Malcolm 02

    07/09/2015 1:36 PM ·Spoilers

    If i track gliscor whirlwind, and milotic keeps dragon tail then gliscor can deal with sylveon or any fairy types. Half of my planned gliscor is set now. It will have poison heal with a toxic orb and whirlwind and stealth rocks as 2 moves, the others have to be attacks now.

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  • Patrick

    07/09/2015 1:36 PM ·Spoilers

    For Milotic, I actually have two. One is Fire Orb set and then ther is Rest-Talk. Both of them are Marvel scale. So, status conditions raise their defense (Burn/Sleep). I found that the Sleep Talk set works especially great. Milotic @ Leftovers Calm 252 HP/252 Sp.Def Marvel scale Scald, Dragon Tail, Rest, Sleep Talk.

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  • Malcolm 02

    07/09/2015 1:37 PM ·Spoilers

    Track? Stupid spell check, i meant teach... Oh well.. Spell check cant be helped

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  • Malcolm 02

    07/09/2015 1:41 PM ·Spoilers

    Patrick's milotic sounds like a good setup substitute setup is for stalling, but i already want sableye for that

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  • Malcolm 02

    07/09/2015 1:46 PM ·Spoilers

    Ok so far forretress and gliscor are hazard setups, gliscor and milotic both will have a switching move, sableye will be a defensive mega staller as always. Skuntank will be sableye's fairy support. And sylveon will just be a speed wall.

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  • Malcolm 02

    07/09/2015 1:47 PM ·Spoilers

    Sound alright?

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  • Patrick

    07/09/2015 1:48 PM ·Spoilers

    Well, it looks good. Give it a shot and make changes as you see fit.

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  • Malcolm 02

    07/09/2015 1:50 PM ·Spoilers

    All i need is to get them from Ender if he doesn't mind since he offered nicely. I'm going to learn how to breed perfectly another time. So i can make my own teams later.

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  • Malcolm 02

    07/09/2015 1:51 PM ·Spoilers

    I can teach them the moves myself, i know what i need know thanks guys!

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  • Malcolm 02

    07/09/2015 1:53 PM ·Spoilers

    *now* i could write a book on how stupid autocorrect is..

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  • Eli

    07/09/2015 1:55 PM ·Spoilers

    Issue: Gluscor can't learn whirlwind.

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  • Malcolm 02

    07/09/2015 1:56 PM ·Spoilers

    But its a flying type and it cant learn a flying type move...? Wow what logic is gamefreak running on?

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  • Eli

    07/09/2015 1:57 PM ·Spoilers

    *shakes fist in air* Curse you autocorrect.

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  • Malcolm 02

    07/09/2015 1:57 PM ·Spoilers

    Then who can? If milotic could then it wouldn't need dragon tail. But i don't see that happening... -.-

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  • Eli

    07/09/2015 2:00 PM ·Spoilers

    Just use milotic, it will wreck havic because it isn't a common moveset any ways, use a pokemon to cover milotic.

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  • Patrick

    07/09/2015 2:04 PM ·Spoilers

    Why do you need Whirlwind?

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  • Eli

    07/09/2015 2:12 PM ·Spoilers

    Probably to replace dragon tail when there is a fairy type out.

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  • Malcolm 02

    07/09/2015 2:14 PM ·Spoilers

    Exactly

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  • Patrick

    07/09/2015 2:22 PM ·Spoilers

    Just use a pokemon with Roar

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  • Malcolm 02

    07/09/2015 2:25 PM ·Spoilers

    Which in the selected team can learn it? I'm not good with what Pokémon can learn since there is 719 after all, 720 later.

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  • Eli

    07/09/2015 2:31 PM ·Spoilers

    Gliscor set I just came up with. Gliscor @ toxic orb ability: poison heal nature: Adamant 192 Hp / 192 Def / 120 Spd / 4 Atk roost toxic knock off earthquake

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  • Malcolm 02

    07/09/2015 2:43 PM ·Spoilers

    That's good but it would have been better if it could learn whirlwind.. I still don't get how it cant learn it.

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  • Eli

    07/09/2015 2:46 PM ·Spoilers

    You don't need whirlwind to counter fairy types maybe teach gliscor a poison type move, or teach excadrill a steel type move.

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  • Malcolm 02

    07/09/2015 2:48 PM ·Spoilers

    Excadrill is kinda out, i need a spike setter, and forretress is the best i can think of that doesn't have much weaknesses, i think its just fire.

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  • Eli

    07/09/2015 2:51 PM ·Spoilers

    Ok, teach fortress a steel type move such as gyroball. It can't outspeed much because it's slow so it will do alot of damage.

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  • Malcolm 02

    07/09/2015 2:53 PM ·Spoilers

    That's why i think its better, even if it is slow. If i teach a Pokémon rainy day then it wont have trouble with its weakness

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  • Eli

    07/09/2015 3:02 PM ·Spoilers

    Don't use rain dance fortress is normaly a pivot and rain dance has to be set up, amd it only lasts 5 turns, try giving it an occa berry.

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  • Malcolm 02

    07/09/2015 3:03 PM ·Spoilers

    If i can find any, they are actually hard to find.

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  • Eli

    07/09/2015 3:06 PM ·Spoilers

    Yeah, they are hard to find but you shouldn't need one unless there are very unfavorible conditions. I can breed you a 5IV marvel scale milotic/ or feebas if you want.

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  • Malcolm 02

    07/09/2015 3:08 PM ·Spoilers

    Ok, i would like it if you could, thanks!

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  • Eli

    07/09/2015 3:09 PM ·Spoilers

    Who's moveset should I base it off of, mine or Patrick's?

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  • Malcolm 02

    07/09/2015 3:12 PM ·Spoilers

    Its ok i will do that, i have alot of heart scales to burn, you can just give it to me however you like. And i have every tm too.

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