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Jehkubbertrandfamily

09/22/2015 4:34 PM ·Spoilers

About my challenge... Did I say HHM? Hehe... I meant to say EHM. I'll give the first report at Chapter 16.

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What's so "subpar" about C staves upon promotion coupled with quick-rising Mag?

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Lucius is known for great Mag, Skill, Spd, and Staff-C; but low Def and Luck kinda kill his thunder.

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when lucious has to compare himself to ALL of the combat mages including erk which is very much wanted and canas who is borderline insanity and the more competent at healing serra and statistically better stats, prissy with mounted utility completely shreds lucious and to add insult to injury anima > light. Lucious isnt terrible but frail cant reliably dodge and cant do better than all of the othr

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And if you say A rank C rank > A rank E rank on normal circumstanes you would be correct but who other than renault can even use a shine tome without losing speed.... not lucious or serra. so really you'd need a higher ranking in staffs and on average youd be at the point physics are sold at secret shops which lucious cannot use at base but serra will upon her promotion and of course silver card

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and no one can say lucious will promote b4 serra and that he is more useful because that is a huge lie. Who's more important the thing that keeps everyone alive or the statistically meh to other mages\ healers

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@chan: I don't know how you can say that Erk would be more "wanted" than Lucius when the latter has better offensive growths, C staves upon promotion, and eventual access to a legendary weapon that finds its 2nd best user in him due to how naturally high his Light level will be. And this is not getting into the fact that Pent pretty much renders promoting Erk pointless due to his own stats.

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Not to mention, you have a very limited number of Guiding Rings. The best candidate for which, besides Lucius, you mentioned. As for who it is, consider this: Serra's and Priscilla's paltry EXP gain means they're not levelling up quick enough for them to promote when the first Guiding Ring comes into play.

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To suggest that Serra or Priscilla will promote before Lucius will is a laughable notion in itself because of their EXP gain. However, this isn't to say that the two of them are bad, which no one in their right mind will say. But at the same time, not every good unit is a long-term unit. Besides, Serra and Priscilla might not even want a promotion because of that EXP gain and their medic status.

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Lucius may be frail, but what mage isn't? Anima may be better than Light, but that alone isn't enough to warrant that Erk will get the first Guiding Ring over Lucius. Not to mention, Lucius only needs 50 Staff WEXP to use Physics; more than I can say for Erk. Erk's good. No question about that. But Lucius's better. Maybe more so than Canas.

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& yes, I will say that Lucius is better than Canas. Mainly because Dark magic is heavy, & Canas is pretty mediocre. Much of the reason why he's considered for the first Guiding Ring over Lucius is because his promotion gives him a much-needed AS boost. Luna's also kinda overrated because boss-killing's not that unique, and because a mid-to-high level tome is rarely needed to defeat a simple enemy.

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Canas really isnt terrible stat wise and are you really implying that light magic is actually lightweight? Torch staff spam is rly just going to insure healer promotions first. what may make aa fighting unit promote before a healer is enemy phase but lucious dosent have that luxary due to his terrible luck that every other mage has over him which gives him low avoid and will be trolled upon

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the reason why mages can get away with being so frail other than distance is either high avoid or a self healing capability or deal enough damage it wont matter. Lucious has none of those options but the only thing he'll ever be able to do is staff botting if youd even bother going that far. Renault could at least give you a fortify lucious cant even give anything other than rage at him being bad.

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Pent is of course better than erk but the fact is that erk comes as your first and only mage utility with an all around superior type of magic that more then lucious can say. I will admit lucious is a better healer then erk but we can face the fact that not even lucious can match up to the mage general in staffs with A rank at base so with the pent arguement either one of them are laughable at bst

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Priscilla and/or serra have fixed exp gain that is higher then what you will get on a hard mode of any kind about mid way through when the units you use are around 12-15 unpromoted and pre promotes youd get about 6-8 exp per kill while healing will give 11 per heal 12 per mend. With that knowledge, we can assume serra will be at lv 14, it will take roughly 54 heals to get to lv 20

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A basic Light tome is about as light as a Thunder tome. That's pretty much all Lucius will ever need for offense throughout much of the game. Especially given that he has a 60% Mag growth, the highest Mag growth in the game, offsetting Light's lower MT. Adding to that, Lucius won't ever get an AS loss from a Lightning tome, whereas the loss he would get from a Shine tome is minute.

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Torch staves aren't even what you want to give to either Serra or Priscilla if you want to make them level quick enough to get a Guiding Ring, period. It's Barrier Staves. The Secret Shop that sells them comes in during Kinship's Bond. By then, Lucius and/or Canas should already be promoted, assuming they get Guiding Rings.

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And what makes you think that Lucius's low LOLuck makes his AVO lower than that than Canas's or Erk's? You seem to be forgetting that AVO = AS × 2 + Lck. Lucius's 40% Spd growth is good enough to ensure that he'll have as much AVO as either of those two. Adding to that, he can form some supports with Raven if you're going slow enough to form supports in the first place. Since Ice gives AVO boosts.

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You're also overestimating just how easy it is to level up Serra and Priscilla. (Read: It isn't easy at all.) 11 EXP via heal roughly equates to one level every 2 or 3 chapters; hardly an ideal EXP gain rate. Barrier staves may help this somewhat, but the EXP issue still remains. Serra's and Priscilla's attack parameters also aren't very good post-promotion. As shown by that E Anima and D Light.

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And Canas IS pretty mediocre stat-wise. 8 Spd coupled with a 35% growth and Dark magic kinda means that he won't be able to double much of anything outside of LOLdiers and other enemies that weigh themselves down until promotion.

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