• Jason

    02/18/2014 9:10 PM ·Spoilers

    @David Hahaha, no.

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  • **** *****

    02/18/2014 9:10 PM ·Spoilers

    I am detecting rage. o-o

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  • Aaron

    02/18/2014 9:11 PM ·Spoilers

    They ban Mega Kangaskhan simply because it's too powerful to counter...they really need to take into account everything, like critical hits, and the fact that it may not have the best stats.

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  • Aaron

    02/18/2014 9:12 PM ·Spoilers

    Wait, Mega Lucario has Adaptability? I honestly never knew that...

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  • David

    02/18/2014 9:12 PM ·Spoilers

    @Jason, Every time they make a ban, they even un-ban things to prevent more broken or cheap strategies. If the best you have is "No", you're just in denial.

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  • Jason

    02/18/2014 9:13 PM ·Spoilers

    Are you actually defending Smogon? I thought you were better than that.

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  • Taciturn

    02/18/2014 9:13 PM ·Spoilers

    They've banned all Moxie pokemon before, even Bibarel.

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  • Edwin Dos

    02/18/2014 9:13 PM ·Spoilers

    Use an earthquake on Mega Lucario. BOOM fainted.

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  • pokéchaz

    02/18/2014 9:14 PM ·Spoilers

    @lux yeah but still i mean mega lucario is a great competitive pokemon im just really tick off at smogon right now

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  • § Lux

    02/18/2014 9:14 PM ·Spoilers

    @Taciturn Moody, because Evasion boosts.

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  • **** *****

    02/18/2014 9:14 PM ·Spoilers

    Ignore the rules, I ain't part the system.

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  • Aaron

    02/18/2014 9:14 PM ·Spoilers

    @Edwin Dos Yeah, that's pretty much how it goes for me.

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  • Jason

    02/18/2014 9:14 PM ·Spoilers

    @Taciturn It's Moody.

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  • § Lux

    02/18/2014 9:15 PM ·Spoilers

    @Edwin Dos +2 Adapability boosted priority move, at weakest.

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  • David

    02/18/2014 9:15 PM ·Spoilers

    Yes. I'm defending Smogon. They did NOTHING wrong. You're just upset about the fans.

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  • § Lux

    02/18/2014 9:16 PM ·Spoilers

    I still think that banning is unjust, but I can see their reasoning.

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  • Chris

    02/18/2014 9:17 PM ·Spoilers

    Mega Lucario- Too strong with Adaptability, too fast. Mega Blaziken- Protect once, feel free to sweep Mega Kangaskhan- OP, few counters Mega Gengar- Shadow Tag, Perish Song

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  • Jason

    02/18/2014 9:18 PM ·Spoilers

    I can't believe you. There is nothing about Smogon that isn't wrong. Tiers, evasion clause, sleep clause, one hit ko clause, buying the game clause, and expecting EVERYONE to follow their rules.

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  • David

    02/18/2014 9:19 PM ·Spoilers

    Give me a link where they say "We expect everyone to follow our rules."

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  • § Lux

    02/18/2014 9:19 PM ·Spoilers

    Only the followers expect everyone to follow Smogon, not Smogon themselves.

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  • Aaron

    02/18/2014 9:19 PM ·Spoilers

    Yeah I just make my own rules. Attack anything that challenges you and do whatever it takes to beat it, even if it means spamming Hypnosis and Extreme Speed.

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  • Chris

    02/18/2014 9:19 PM ·Spoilers

    Evasion Clause and Sleep Clause help dramatically.

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  • Jason

    02/18/2014 9:20 PM ·Spoilers

    @David Look all around and tell me people don't follow their rules.

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  • Jason

    02/18/2014 9:20 PM ·Spoilers

    @Lux Smogon isn't a person. Smogon is its followers.

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  • David

    02/18/2014 9:20 PM ·Spoilers

    Not rules, suggestions.

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  • Jason

    02/18/2014 9:21 PM ·Spoilers

    @David Give me a link to where they say their rules are suggestions.

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  • § Lux

    02/18/2014 9:21 PM ·Spoilers

    No, it isn't.

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  • pokéchaz

    02/18/2014 9:21 PM ·Spoilers

    @Lux yeah i just dont agree with the ban thing there making a huge deal out of it!!!!!!!

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  • David

    02/18/2014 9:21 PM ·Spoilers

    @Jason, You do realize how many knockoff Smogons there are, right? Since this set of rules is so popular, they must be doing something right.

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    02/18/2014 9:21 PM ·Spoilers

    @David Yeah...suggestions that pretty much everyone else takes seriously and forces upon you no matter what.

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  • Jason

    02/18/2014 9:22 PM ·Spoilers

    @Lux Then please introduce me to Mr. Smogon, I'd like to ask him some questions.

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  • Aaron

    02/18/2014 9:23 PM ·Spoilers

    @David Just because something's popular doesn't mean something is being done right.

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  • § Lux

    02/18/2014 9:23 PM ·Spoilers

    It's an alternate way to play Pokémon. Nothing more, nothing less. Blame the followers, not Smogon. Stop confusing the two.

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  • Jason

    02/18/2014 9:23 PM ·Spoilers

    @David You do realize that's completely irrelevant, right?Smogon probably just came first.

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  • Aaron

    02/18/2014 9:24 PM ·Spoilers

    @SSJ.Nykei I love how all this is going on and you just pop up out of nowhere...XD

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  • David

    02/18/2014 9:25 PM ·Spoilers

    "Probably" Don't assume, Jason. Smogon is only a few years old and Pokemon has been around since the 90s.

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    02/18/2014 9:25 PM ·Spoilers

    @Lux They are one in the same.

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  • § Lux

    02/18/2014 9:25 PM ·Spoilers

    I'm sure it was created by multiple people, but they aren't the ones that made them so infamous.

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  • Chris

    02/18/2014 9:26 PM ·Spoilers

    Many people don't follow Smogon, it's not like they force themselves in the community. And as David said, they're quite popular and many people follow their rules, so they must be doing something

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  • Jason

    02/18/2014 9:26 PM ·Spoilers

    @David My point is there's many possible explanations as to why they're popular. You were assuming yourself when you said "they must be doing something right.".

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  • Chris

    02/18/2014 9:26 PM ·Spoilers

    right.

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  • Jason

    02/18/2014 9:27 PM ·Spoilers

    @Chris It is most certainly forced into the community! And I already replied to the second part.

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  • Aaron

    02/18/2014 9:27 PM ·Spoilers

    EITHER WAY, EVERYONE Smogon's rules have been taken too seriously and may be affecting even those who do not wish to follow those rules. You could say it's their followers' faults for following...

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  • Aaron

    02/18/2014 9:28 PM ·Spoilers

    ...their rules, but it's Smogon's fault for creating the rules in the first place.

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  • § Lux

    02/18/2014 9:28 PM ·Spoilers

    The followers forced Smogon in the community, not Smogon themselves.

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  • David

    02/18/2014 9:29 PM ·Spoilers

    Wait, so you're only hating on the Smogon followers, right? Not the people who decide what Pokemon are too cheap to battle?

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    02/18/2014 9:29 PM ·Spoilers

    @Aaron It's not Smogon's fault that they created a crazy fanbase. Exact same thing applies to PewDiePie.

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  • Jason

    02/18/2014 9:29 PM ·Spoilers

    How many times do I have to say Smogon is its followers!? They have polls, the decisions are community made. Those people are part of Smogon.

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  • § Lux

    02/18/2014 9:30 PM ·Spoilers

    And the electoral college just so happens to be a myth.

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  • Jason

    02/18/2014 9:31 PM ·Spoilers

    @David Same people. I don't like thier rules, but I hate it when someone expects me to follow it.

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  • David

    02/18/2014 9:31 PM ·Spoilers

    Exactly. Majority rules. That means they ARE doing something right.

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    02/18/2014 9:31 PM ·Spoilers

    @David Pretty much.

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  • Jason

    02/18/2014 9:31 PM ·Spoilers

    @Lux But didn't you say you hate PewDiePie?

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  • Chris

    02/18/2014 9:31 PM ·Spoilers

    It's the stubborn followers like Shadow Ty(no offense) that force Smogon onto the community

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  • Jason

    02/18/2014 9:32 PM ·Spoilers

    @David No. No it doesn't. I will not believe the majority of humans are capable of making good decisions.

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  • David

    02/18/2014 9:32 PM ·Spoilers

    @Jason, I don't like all of their rules either but I respect them for trying to avoid people using cheap or unfair strategies that ruin the fun of battle.

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    02/18/2014 9:33 PM ·Spoilers

    Well, I don't like his videos, but he's a decent guy, it's just his fanbase that drives me up a wall.

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  • Chris

    02/18/2014 9:33 PM ·Spoilers

    You make a good point, it may be community driven, but in the end, they make the decisions.

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  • Jason

    02/18/2014 9:33 PM ·Spoilers

    @David I believe thier rule are precisely what takes the fun out of a battle.

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  • Taciturn

    02/18/2014 9:34 PM ·Spoilers

    There are more foolish than wise people in the world.

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  • David

    02/18/2014 9:34 PM ·Spoilers

    @Jason, A "good" decision is a matter of opinion.

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    02/18/2014 9:34 PM ·Spoilers

    @David Technically speaking there is no way to fully get rid of cheap strategies without banning every Pokemon except magikarp.

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  • Jason

    02/18/2014 9:35 PM ·Spoilers

    @Taciturn I agree.

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  • Jason

    02/18/2014 9:35 PM ·Spoilers

    @David "Cheap" is an opinion.

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  • David

    02/18/2014 9:36 PM ·Spoilers

    @Jason, Yup. I have a great time with my team full of Smeargle with Spore, Double Team, and Sheer Cold.

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    02/18/2014 9:37 PM ·Spoilers

    @David That sounds like a terrible strategy.

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  • § Lux

    02/18/2014 9:38 PM ·Spoilers

    @David And Lock-On.

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  • David

    02/18/2014 9:38 PM ·Spoilers

    @Jason, Sounds pretty solid to me.

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    02/18/2014 9:38 PM ·Spoilers

    My wonder guard sableye's like your statment.

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  • Jason

    02/18/2014 9:39 PM ·Spoilers

    @David Then battle me.

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  • Blake

    02/18/2014 9:39 PM ·Spoilers

    My Spore + Substitute + Focus Punch Breloom is laughing so much right now.

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  • Jason

    02/18/2014 9:39 PM ·Spoilers

    @ThisIsFake That's hacking and it doesn't have any place here.

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  • David

    02/18/2014 9:40 PM ·Spoilers

    @Jason, I'll battle you now on Pokemon Showdown or you could wait the 2-3 weeks it would take to breed them. Your choice.

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    02/18/2014 9:40 PM ·Spoilers

    @ThisIsFake: Fairy.

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  • Jason

    02/18/2014 9:40 PM ·Spoilers

    @Blake Game Freak did a really good job of powering it down in X and Y.

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  • Blake

    02/18/2014 9:41 PM ·Spoilers

    I'm assuming you're talking about Gale Wings Talonflame right?

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  • § Lux

    02/18/2014 9:41 PM ·Spoilers

    If you don't like their rules, fine, just don't rant about them like its their fault that they have a wild fanbase. Smack the sense into their followers insteed, they are the ones who deserve it.

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    02/18/2014 9:42 PM ·Spoilers

    @David Pokémon Showdown is about equal to roleplaying. It's clearly not actually happening and there's no point in pretending it's real.

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  • 2Can

    02/18/2014 9:43 PM ·Spoilers

    Only legendaries should be banned. I think the fact that you can only have 1 mega makes it an even match.

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  • Blake

    02/18/2014 9:43 PM ·Spoilers

    @David: I bred a perfect Scyther, Rotom, and Breloom (with Focus Punch) in less than three days, but I do agree with you. It can help to test out a team or just make one on the fly.

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  • Jason

    02/18/2014 9:43 PM ·Spoilers

    @Blake Well that actually didn't come to mind. I was thinking about Inflitrator and Spore not working on Grass.

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  • Jason

    02/18/2014 9:43 PM ·Spoilers

    @Lux Perhaps you didn't hear me.

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  • David

    02/18/2014 9:43 PM ·Spoilers

    Still, you challenged me to a battle. You never clarified the legitimacy of said battle.

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    02/18/2014 9:44 PM ·Spoilers

    @David Ok fine. Go Galvantula!

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  • Blake

    02/18/2014 9:44 PM ·Spoilers

    How many Pokemon get Infiltrator?

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  • § Lux

    02/18/2014 9:44 PM ·Spoilers

    Perhaps you didn't hear Smogon and me.

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  • David

    02/18/2014 9:45 PM ·Spoilers

    @Blake, None that are grass.

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    02/18/2014 9:45 PM ·Spoilers

    @Blake Dunno.

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  • 2Can

    02/18/2014 9:45 PM ·Spoilers

    Smeargle is easily outsped.

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  • Blake

    02/18/2014 9:45 PM ·Spoilers

    How many Pokemon get Infiltrator?

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  • Jason

    02/18/2014 9:45 PM ·Spoilers

    SMOGON. IS. ITS. FOLLOWERS.

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  • 2Can

    02/18/2014 9:46 PM ·Spoilers

    Chandelure does.

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    02/18/2014 9:46 PM ·Spoilers

    @Blake Noivern and Chandelure to start.

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  • Taciturn

    02/18/2014 9:46 PM ·Spoilers

    The only way to make the game "fair" is to remove Critical Hits, force everyone to use the exact same Pokemon, and ban all items.

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  • Blake

    02/18/2014 9:46 PM ·Spoilers

    ...what? Random phone double-posting.

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  • David

    02/18/2014 9:46 PM ·Spoilers

    @2Can, Focus Sash.

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    02/18/2014 9:46 PM ·Spoilers

    Please direct me to your proof.

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