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09/30/2017 11:11 AM ·Spoilers

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Zelda Dream Buff Patch Notes

Increase Weight to 93 Increase Run Speed to 1.6 Jab - Frame 11 → 9 Decrease FTilt EndLag & Increase FTilt Range Remove SideB FreeFall Buff Phantom from 13% to 18% Nayru's Love - Frame 13 → 7 Increase Grab/Pivot Grab Range Increase Fall Speed to 1.38 Increase SideB Guidability Make Up B Intangible on Frame 2 Onward Remove Reappear Vulnerability Frame on UpB 2

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  • Nix

    09/30/2017 11:14 AM ·Spoilers

    Decrease Ending Lag on Dair Decrease UpThrow Knockback Decrease DownThrow Knockback Growth Increase DSmash 2 HitBox Decrease Nair End Lag by about 3 Frames

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  • Wally

    09/30/2017 11:16 AM ·Spoilers

    Another Zelda post? And didn't you say you wanted her to stay bottom 3? XD

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  • Nix

    09/30/2017 11:16 AM ·Spoilers

    & Finally, allow Her to be able to move Horizontally immediately after Zelda reappears

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  • Nix

    09/30/2017 11:19 AM ·Spoilers

    Yeah I do, & these buffs wouldn't make her TopTier really, these are just the problems she has. & Yeah She's the only Character I really focus on to be totally honest

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  • Raymond

    09/30/2017 11:58 AM ·Spoilers

    Zelda seeiously needs to be buffed in SSB5. So do Jigglypuff and Ganondorf. Fun fact, all these characters (Besides Jigglypuff and Ganondorf in Melee) have always been bottom teir characters. I don't get why the Smash team is still allowing them to be bottom tier characters, but hopefully they fix that in SSB5.

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  • |WC|Mackay

    09/30/2017 12:02 PM ·Spoilers

    for me Ganons is just a better Captain Falcon

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  • Elucia

    09/30/2017 12:27 PM ·Spoilers

    Zelda isn't bottom 3. She's better than DK for example. DK is very easy to combo and vulnerable to projectiles. Zelda has many opportunities to avoid them. But I repeat myself...

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  • Nix

    09/30/2017 12:58 PM ·Spoilers

    @Raymond, i will eventually. I just look to study their Attributes & their Frame Data @Elucia, i know right ? im gonna make my own tier lists thats only based on character traits, effectiveness at their objective, & overall tools & utility. & non of this match-ups & tournament wins nonsense

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  • Elucia

    09/30/2017 1:07 PM ·Spoilers

    Great. I'm glad to hear that. That's how I did it too. I put Zelda on D btw

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  • Nix

    09/30/2017 1:08 PM ·Spoilers

    I think i'd put her in the same spot tbh.

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  • Nix

    09/30/2017 1:08 PM ·Spoilers

    meaning i agree with your placement

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  • Elucia

    09/30/2017 1:16 PM ·Spoilers

    Palutena was C on my list when I remember right. It's fun to make lists myself. There's a page on the internet called "tierlist maker" where you can place the characters in the row you want and when you're finished, you can save it as a picture

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  • Nix

    09/30/2017 1:22 PM ·Spoilers

    I put her in B in mine

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  • Nix

    09/30/2017 1:24 PM ·Spoilers

    I put Rosa in D because she relies too heavily on Luma & without his her tilts & 3 out of 4 of her aerials are too unsafe without luma to give her coverage

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  • Elucia

    09/30/2017 1:28 PM ·Spoilers

    Oh Rosa is good but not that good as many say. I would say she's B cause she's weak without Luma and her range is much shorter. Also she's light and Luma is easy to push from the stage. But with Luma, she's awesome. That's why I put her on B

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  • Wallace

    09/30/2017 2:16 PM ·Spoilers

    Tier lists are pretty accurate imo. I think DK is better than Zelda. Not every heavy is bottom 5.

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  • Nix

    09/30/2017 3:15 PM ·Spoilers

    no they're not. they based on tournament results. so basically if i won EVO & Beast 6 or whatever tournaments are out there right now & i beat them with Jigglypuff that makes her high tier ? no

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