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10/19/2017 7:02 PM ·Spoilers
In your mind, what separates a good character from an outstanding character?
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10/19/2017 8:56 PM ·Spoilers
Bad characters: Midna, tael, gabero (owl from oot), ganondorf (oot and TP) Good: Linebeck, ceilia, spirit zelda, ezlo, tetra (ww zelda), Outstanding: Link and zelda (Skyward sword), ghiriham, groose, impa (skyward sword), King of red lions (wind waker) and finally I'd say Fi from skyward sword. (Prepares for scoulding)
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10/19/2017 8:56 PM ·Spoilers
There were more that I could have listed from all of those list but that was just an example.
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10/19/2017 9:01 PM ·Spoilers
Interesting. These are all great answers. I really like your explanation, Matt, and I also like that you listed characters you consider bad, good, and outstanding, Hidalgo, even if I don't agree.
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10/19/2017 10:24 PM ·Spoilers
Basicslly, what Matthew said. If you can understand a character’s motives and feelings, they’re good. If the writer can go a step further and actually make you feel what the character is feeling...they become amazing. It’s worth mentioning that far more goes into this than just some simple character development. Everything about a moment contributes, not the least of which is the music.
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10/19/2017 10:41 PM ·Spoilers
Music is very important. Character's with their own theme are very memorable.
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10/20/2017 8:03 AM ·Spoilers
In my mind, a good character is pushed to his or her limit. They have distinct personality, distinct motives, a distinct ideology, and a distinct character design... For all intents and purposes, they are fully developed. But an outstanding character is pushed past his or her limit. You don't truly know a character until you see how they act in the face of a problem they can't overcome. FFVI does
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10/20/2017 8:08 AM ·Spoilers
This extraordinarily well, although I won't dive into too much detail for spoiler reasons... Xenoblade and Wind Waker also have great characters, among a handful of other games that really stand out. Of course, thats not all there is to the process... These are great answers.
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10/20/2017 9:15 AM ·Spoilers
Depth. Character. Flaws. I think the best characters are ones that can’t accurately be depicted with a single word. Real people are not perfect. Outstanding characters are not perfect. Besides the people you’ve all mentioned, Joel from The Last of Us is a spectacular character.
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10/21/2017 3:11 AM ·Spoilers
Beautifully put, Matthew! Sciz. I can think of one outstanding character to challenge your sentiments. The Son of Man.
Yeahs3 -
10/21/2017 5:39 AM ·Spoilers
What separates a good character from an outstanding one is their silhouette. You can recognize an outstanding character just from their silhouette alone.
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10/21/2017 8:32 AM ·Spoilers
I would not define him as an outstanding character. In terms strictly related to thinking of him as a character, I think he’s pretty uninteresting. He had some dilemmas and personal challenges, but he doesn’t go through any sort of amazing growth or apparent change. He is just always the way he is.
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10/21/2017 9:54 AM ·Spoilers
There's always a danger in judging somethings usefulness by something other than its purpose. I lack the wisdom to tell whether The Good Book is meant to be a compelling narrative, but that's certainly not its primary purpose... On the topic of character flaws, an unwillingness to compromise could be taken as a character "flaw," but it depends on the situation. If the character's lacks nuance,
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10/21/2017 9:59 AM ·Spoilers
The character becomes one-dimensional and insufferable. This usually happens if he is rewarded for not compromising... Most generic protagonists fall into this category. If the character does have nuance, he becomes relatable. His refusal to compromise makes life a lot harder for himself, but the struggle is worth it. That's one thing that separates good characters from great characters in
Yeahs1 -
10/21/2017 10:02 AM ·Spoilers
My mind. It is also how a character with no faults becomes "relatable."
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10/21/2017 10:20 PM ·Spoilers
See, that's why I bring up Reyn. He lacks intellect and is fairly one dimensional, yet he's chock full of nuance. Wakka has all kinds of great circumstantial writing, and comes from a similar mold, eventually having to work with a lifelong enemy, protective lunk, trying to replace a fallen lover, et cetera ... but comes off so much more shallow. Groose is next level, heh.
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10/21/2017 10:49 PM ·Spoilers
Very well said, Stagger. Is there any character from Xenoblade that lacks nuance? That's one reason why that game is so fantastic...
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10/22/2017 6:37 AM ·Spoilers
I haven’t gotten super far into FFX, but Wakka’s most interesting quality is that he dislikes Al Bhed. I haven’t gotten super far into XC, either. Reyn is a fun character, but that’s it so far.
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