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04/19/2017 1:44 PM ·Spoilers

like, Gamefreak obsessively pandering to Gen 1 fans is an actual issue they have but literally no new fans come in and see someone exclusively liking Gen 1 and are like "oh hey that seems like fun". Even with Pokemon Go initially only having Gen 1 pokemon at the start (which was more the product of the game itself being rushed to launch than actual pandering), players were aware that there were

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re: relying on Gen I Pokemon, I'd much rather they do that then introduce copies with either small differences and/or outclasses them in most relevant aspects (ex. Conkeldurr vs. Machamp, Gigalith vs. Golem).

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most gen 5 pararel have completely diferent concept that gen 1 counterparts gigalith is crystal formation golem is a tortoise also gen 3 was the first gen with gen 1 knockoffs that tried to recreate gen 1 atmosphere it failed then they just remade gen 1

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swellow= pidgeot corphish=kingler wurple=caterpie aggron=rhydon magnetric=jolteon hell the gen 3 clones felt more knockoff than gen 5 atleast those have diferent typing and concept

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I can't believe you seriously dismissed Gigalith and Golem being counterparts (three-stage rock monsters that reach their final form solely by trade; share abilities, both physically capable but slow and completely incompetent with special matters) yet said Pidgeot (three stage, jack of all trades with special Mega) and Swellow (two stage, physical, no Mega) are.

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@Jomo "Golem is a tortoise" I hate to break it to you, but it's actually, y'know, a golem I'm not going to bother to defend Gen 3 because that's not what this post was about (way to try to pick a fight about a tangentially related topic on my posts for a second time in the past week, friendo), but, like

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you're insisting that pokemon can't be even remotely similar. 'Oops, we've got one crustacean, can't have another' is literally a quote unquote "genwunner" sentiment, even if it's in a slightly different form than what is usually used. A swallow isn't the same thing as a pidgeon. a crayfish isn't the same thing as a king crab.

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you even claim Aggron and Rhydon are the same thing (despite different typing and clearly different origin), and then in the same sentence praise Gen 5 for having clones with "different typing" Like, buddy... Honestly? I'm more insulted that you clearly can't be bothered to put any effort in when trying to start something

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to be honest i hate the clone argument completly as i like both gen 3 and 5 and i find that they did the whole replacing roles well as both pokemon looked similar yet diferent also the same thing you said about agron can be applied to most gen 5 (clones) suposedly since gigalith and golem conkeldur and machampo jellyscent and tetacruel look complatly diferent have diferent typing exept conkeldurr

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also im not starting something im just sick of the clone debate since in real life there are similar animals yet have diferent variations also other monter catching games uses recolors soo i dont see the problem also similar desings has been around since gen 1 nidoking/rhydhon clefable/wigglytuff ect soo calling the gen 5 one clones while ignoring the other gens make you a hypocrite

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oh also aggron looks like a metalised rhydon believed me it was critise as a knockoff when gen 3 was hated still i love both

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If you're sick of "the clone debate" then why would you bring it up and do everything short of outright stating that you support it? Your apparent viewpoint on the issue has shifted radically from before I responded to your comment to now. I'm all for using a discussion as a means to expand your viewpoint on things but the speed at which yours has changed has left me in disbelief.

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all im saying is there were never any clones its just a stupid buzzword made by elitist i can argument and disproved any clone argument of any pokemon the closest we ever been to a real clone were pluse and minum the rest are just similar but diferent pokemon

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Did you not make those first two comments by the user named "Jomo"? or did you just ~conveniently~ forget that you made them and made this entire exchange a waste of time for both of us?

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i was just using gen 3 as example of how people acused other lines as clones but i did say i hated the clone argument but lets just agree to disagree to be honest exchanges like this are tiring and im not going to write a paragraph explaining why clones in pokemon dont exist but i dont wanna waste my time you have your opinion i have mine

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also sorry for bringing this up and causing trouble i just get pissed at the clone debate

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"agree to disagree" sure, since you're already doing that with yourself you spoke of the whole "clone thing" as if you supported it up until I responded to you. If you don't actually support something that you yourself bring up it's on you to make that clear when you first bring it up. If you wait until you get a response it'll only seem like you're changing your views b/c it's convenient for you

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I'd first like to apologize for posting as it seems that caused this decable. I view "clones" from a gameplay standpoint, not a physical one (which you seem to be focusing on). It is unarguable that Gigalith and Golem are very similar gameplay-wise. (if it's fine I'll post more after work but if not I won't)

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yeah its just i kinda get attacked a lot by gen 3 fanboys soo i always use to say that both gen 3 and 5 have pokemon similar but diferent to gen 1 and i list those examples im sorry if i was rude at first its just a touchy subject to me and i kinda sounded like a jerk its just gen 5 is my favorite gen but peple cannot let me enjoy it in peace

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Right, like when Manectric evolved from a Pokemon with more than one evolution when you used a Thunder Stone on it and it was Pretty Cool. Or when Wurmple only had one evolutionary line. Or when Swellow had two previous evolutions and was only slightly biased towards physical attacks rather than nearly completely geared. Or when Aggron was still kinda tanky but didn't have *the* tank type.

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Crawdaunt is closer but having Water/Dark rather than pure Water is a way bigger difference than having Rock/Ground rather than Rock.

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