sorry but it has nothing to do with the wii u having or needing more games.The answer is simple.Adverstise,advertise and advertise!I don't mean youtube videos or select channels and time slots.Why do you think the ps4 is the number one selling console?Is it the amazing games out?Of course not it selling because the average joe aka the casual market is buying it up because of marketing.

(cont)wither we like to admit it or not the casual market is what drives sales.The average joe doesn't know about gamesites heck they can't even name who created mario!Nope they see a cool destiny commercial and the ps4 commercial and they say I gotta have that.Believe me I took business classes and if you don't sell your product to the general audience then don't expect it to expand.The more.....

people buy your product the more word of mouth and the more profit made.Not trying to be armchair analyst but if nintendo wants to expand they need the casual as well as the hardcore market.You can't have one with out the other.They need a montage games commercials ala play it loud with existing and upcoming games for the core and a more wii will like to play for the casual audience.If nintendo...

would of done this at the beginning the wii u would of been setting at about 15 million sold.Don't believe me during the simpson vs family guy episode about four destiny commercials shown.Wanna know how many hyrule warriors commercials were shown?Zero absolutely nothing guess which one is the best selling game and console?

just to add sorry but nintendo throwing money aka money hatting is a very bad business decision.Remember their a games only company.They are the most profitable and besides popular opinion they have no debt snd in no danger of calling quits.If nintendo throws money at third parties that money out of their pockets that will never be recovered and that will drive them to bankruptcy.A better idea...

colaberations with existing franchises and exclusive games published and made specific for the wii u.That way nintendo and the developer sees profits.

Just throwing ads won't save Wii U, and you are wrong with PS4. PS4 is selling well in the West not for the ads, is because Sony knew how to deal with the fidelity of its buyers, who knew they will have a good console with their fav games waiting for them (sth i disagree) and that's the reason why PS4 is behind Dreamcast levels in Japan, has no games with the japanese appeal, not because of ads.

@Friik you're right. It would be like what playstation tried to do with the Vita. It didn't turn out so good. Though I hope the three things they keep in their next console: off TV play, Miiverse, and the gamepad

It would be kinda nice if when Star Fox returns that the Wii u becomes a hardcore exclusive console for all the latest Nintendo games

nope sorry but I'm actually right.Why do you think madden,cod and now the new comers destiny,watchdogs and titanfall (besides the amount of gamers complaining how said game is broken or how theirs nothing to play for the ps4)are still selling in the millions!?Its because no matter how much one complains when the next commercial is shown with a movie star showing off ro a cgi trailer the masses...

will go out and buy it.Sorry if you don't want to admit but the general audience is where the money is at.Also it is a fact that that sony at the moment has no exclusives games that will make someone go out and buy the system will at the moment.Hence its selling on hype and promises.I actually commend sony for doing heavy advertising of the system.Your kidding yourself if you believe nintendo....

wouldn't be in a much better position sales wise if they did wii will like to play and play it loud commercials since the beginning of it launch.You could say it because of the promise of future releases for the ps4 but that applies to any console manufacture.Yet the fact remains advertising sells to the masses.

@Koi: Trust Nintendo to add even more controller options in the next generation in some years. On the Gamecube we had just the Gamecube controller. The Wii supported Gamecube controller, Wiimote, Nunchuk and Classic Controller. Now the Wii U added the Gamepad, the Pro Controller and (new variants of) the Gamecube controller. You might need a third arm in the future ;).

@nenecito: obviously advertisements push the sales. But whats the point when you have nothing to advertise. If all nintendo advertise is mario and zelda on tv then no casual will buy it. Some people honestly think that games like Destiny are exclusive to ps4 based on their marketing campaigns and as that is the type of game people want they buy ps4. Its also about public image and perception as

many people believe that nintendo are 'kiddy' (though they will happily buy a 3ds). The casual market also think that wii u is just a wii and therefore a money grab (though they will happily buy ps4). Most of the people who bought wii said things like 'whats the point of owning a wii of you are just going to sit there' which refers to the non-sporty games, many of which are niche and not

popular/cool. The casual market really don't care about videogames and (hypocritically) judge those who do play core games, they do not buy the games that core gamers buy. Casual gamers believe that wii u is only a cashgrab and only care about sports games - most casuals 1st console was the wii so they definately won't pay for wii u. There is also the (still surprisingly current) perception that

games are for children, that they are stupid (completely ignorant and unfounded) and some people believe them to be responsible for violence (forgetting that toys, books, movies and tv do the same thing). Casuals cannot be relied on for long term success even though they are the majority. Those that will buy consoles will not buy wii u as they already own a wii, maybe they will buy nintendos next

console, years down the line and only if it drops the wii name and has some healthy living or get fit quick gimmick as well as an overpowered console that can play teh nxt gen cod and fifa. Ps2 only earned sales because of the dvd player. Wii because of wii sports/fit. Ps1 because of the name sony. Snes because of the1st nes. Nes because it was new and interesting and because of super mario bros.

sorry but you contradicted yourself when you said whats the point when you have nothing to advertise?So tell me why is sony selling so many consoles?Its certainally not because of the games indie and remakes shouldn't count.Its the general audience and yes the core that buy the system.Why do you think the ps2 and wii were so popular?We need to stop with this elthist attitude sorry not saying.....

you or anyone posting please don't get offended.I'm talking in the general term.We need to stop with the attitude that if you play a certain game or if your a casual your not a gamer.Or casual ruin the industry thats far from the truth.Gaming is about inclusion not exclusion.We all started off as casuals at one point did we not?True some casual gamers move on or don't care about gaming.Yet for....

every casual that leaves a new harcore gamer is made.I want nintendo,sony and microsoft to make the core franchises that define them but I also want those casual party games,excercise games and yes even those early child hood games because who are we to deprive small children and older people from enjoying games?If we just stick to the core audience which is in the late 20 to late 30s and......

exclude the general audience that do not expect this business to strive and expand.Theres gonna be a point when old age well catch up and we can't enjoy gaming as well as other activities like we used to do.So once we the core are long gone:( Who will we leave this enjoyment of gaming to? I f we have the me only attitude and exclude the general population?

To add casual think that core gamers and video games are a waste of time true but the same can be said about the so called core gamer.One can easily say core gamers don't think outside the box and always play it safe.They scoff at every new gameplay idea or new game ip or era.All core gamers care is generic for generic shooters.Yes I heard so called hardcore gamer call me not being a gamer.......

because I love nintendo games and preference is the wii u:(About the gimmicks you do know those gimmicks are what helped expand and made gaming what it is today?Just because 3rd parties did not take advantage of motion controls does not mean their were no innovations and new gameplay ideas to be made.The developers were hate to say it just lazy and wanted a quick cash grab.The reason nintendo.....

made wiisports was to showcase what motion controls were capable of doing.Think of it as a demo.It was the foundation so developers can use to build and create interactive experiences.Saddley instead they made quick cash mini games to fund other projects:(Power has nothing to do with it.As a wii,ps3 and 360 owner my favorite console gasp! this might come as a shock?Was the wii why?Because some....

of the best core challenging games that actually utilized the wiimote were on the wii.Yeah they weren't popular very niche only the will know about them.Once I experienced trauma center,cod with wiimote controls,red steel 2 no more heroes all using the wiimote the way its meant to be I just couldn't go back to traditional controls.At one point the d-pad was a gimmick what happened super mario.....

came along.The anolog stick,rumble,shoulder buttons,anolog click buttons were are considered gimmicks at one point.Yet now we can't live with out them.Motion controls and touch controls is just an expansion of those control methods.Sorry for the long reply.

The Nintendo 3DS continues to dominate the video game market in Japan!

I didn't contradict myself. The Ps4 sells because of the fanbase Sony has. At the end of the day, fanboys are casual gamers because being 'core' isn't about time spent gaming it's about being open minded and appreciating that any game has the potential to be good (there's more but I'm going off topic). Also what relevence does talking about exclusion have, I never said that I didn't want those

games but their are other people who genuinely won't buy a console if there is a perception (wrong or not) that their is a large portion of 'kiddy' games or something similar. But Nintendo, need some new ips and a few mature ones aswell. Why? Because that's what a lot of people want. Casual gamers also won't want to buy more than one console and are just happy with the wii or ipad so in the long

term, the casual market is difficult because a lot of them don't care and have lots of different negative perceptions of games that 10 second advertisements can't change. Changing perceptions requires people to explain why these perceptions aren't 100% to those who have them. Furthermore, casual gamers only buy into cooler, less niche games so that will do nothing for thousands of games that are.

Furthermore, most people who don't play games probably do so for a reason i.e. they don't enjoy them. Also, not every person who plays games started out as casual gamers: one day I had never heard of videogames and the next my family decided to surprise me with an N64 and SM64 and I have been playing ever since. Everyone in my family used to play videogames on the N64 and enjoyed it too but none

of them still play videogames because they aren't really important. In fact I often think that videogames are a bit of a waste of time. There is certainly more important things in the world especially in an age when most people can't afford to pay extortionate prices for a console that includes a tablet they may not enjoy using when a game they want is then released on a different console.

You also assume their is no such thing as ignorance and that everyone is open-minded when the truth is their is lots of ignorance including most people who would say that they were gamers. Also about Ps4 having nothing to advertise, you said that advertising is key but Ps4 has nothing to advertise, that is a contradiction. Especially when the Ps4 has lots to advertise (and do), they may not be

good quality but they are popular. As I said many people thought that Destiny was exclusive. I also said that advertising was important but is definately not the only factor in changing the sales of the wii u.

About the gimmicks. Where does it say that I don't know what they've done for the industry. I was saying that the majority of casual gamers were only interested in the wii because they thought it was some sort of get fit quick scheme and have fun doing it whereas 3D, tablets, virtual reality etc don't have the same effect.

I also never said that I wanted the 'mature' games more than the sports and party games. I respect all of them and enjoy them too. I was saying that nintendo don't have as many 'mature' games as the competition and that is what many people want. I don't share this 'mature only' preference. The best way for nintendo to thrive is to offer all types of games for everyone, but currently there is not

enough 'mature' games to appeal to the people who like that. Finally, why did you assume that I hate the wii remote? I actually prefer it to most controllers and enjoy using it as my go to controller for most games that use it. I used the word gimmick but that shouldn't have negative connotations. Most of my arguments were about the views of other people being the reason they don't just buy every

game and console that is released. Also, what reason can you think of for any casual gamer to buy the Wii U? Especially if they already own another current or last-gen console. Even I wouldn't recommend the Wii U to a casual player at the moment (I love it by the way). Finally (again), the negative connotation of the term casual gamer has no relation to this argument. I don't hate casual players,

if anything I can't blame them for not being interested. There is also the argument of fatigue - you forget, those 20-30 year old gamers you were talking about are tired of buying new consoles constantly. I myself am considering taking a very long break from gaming and then returning, I'm starting to get a little tired of them.

Robert never in your entire post did you refute anything that I said and no I m not putting words in your mouth.You said what is their to advertise if theirs nothing to advertise is that not what you said?I responded then why is the ps4 selling?You do realize the ps4 has no must have games out and you do realize that sony did a remarkable job advertising the ps4. Who are the majority of people....

who watch tv?Mom dads brother sisters the general audience correct.They see a cool commercial and that what entices them to buy the system or any type of product.We live in a society where people fall for every lil thing thats heavily advertised to be the next big thing see iphones.Sorry but what does ignorance have to do with sale?On the contrary ignorance is bliss.If the majority of ps4 owners..

knew what was offered at the moment they would of held off on the purchase of the sytstem.Ask many of the ps4 owners hey do you read ign?Hey do you know who kojima is and they will look at you like what are you talking about?You and I will know cause we grew up and follow the industry.Sorry it seems that you hate to admit that in order for the industry to strive you need the general audience aka..

casual market as well as the core.So you were never a casual so you say you were a core gamer right when you got a controller in your hand. Sorry buts that another contradiction if you never had any experience with gaming until you got that controller in your hand then that my friend made you a casual and hey nothing wrong with the word casual I and many of us hear were once casual.Some left and..

Some grew in core gamers.I mean core in the right term. We follow the industry have debates know what games are being made before any advertisement and keep up to date with the news.Ok I'm done be free to respond but I will not reply I said my peace.

woah! 3ds sold more than 1/10 of a million! not surprising seeing that smash 3ds is out.

DS in its good times used to sell nearly half million in a the most important week of the year (51st week)

It's odd that people are buying the PS4 yet don't seem to be buying any PS4 games xD Are there any big releases on the horizon in Japan ?

For those wondering when the Wii U will become a sales powerhouse. Smash Wii U, with all of its extra features makes the 3DS version look like an empty beta version. Its release will cause sales to skyrocket. This will also make MK8, Hyrule Warriors and other titles pick up sales because people will actually have the console and will need games to use besides Smash.

Then there's amiibo, basically a clever gimmick designed to sell other games than the one you intended to buy. Take the Link amiibo. It's going to be usable in Smash, but also in Hyrule Warriors and MK8, so people will buy all 3. All the Wii U sales and games will pick up once Smash is released and around the holiday season. Maybe Bayonetta 2 will get some sales as well, but it's not likely.

@nanecito: I agree that the casual market is important and I never said it wasn't but they won't buy they won't buy Wii U based on adverts alone. Also the Ps4 does have games, lots of them, again, it doesn't matter if they are good or not but they exist and the truth is those games are more popular than most on Wii U. Adverts also can't change peoples perceptions of nintendo especially when

there are huge connotations involved with the name Wii U - the successor to the Wii and most sold/ most hated 7th gen console. Also, you didn't refute any of my arguments. You just stated that everyone was once a casual and said they are the most important market. So you think their is only two categories of people: casual and core gamers. I wasn't a casual gamer because I had NEVER played a game

before, ergo I couldn't be classified as a gamer. I went from non-gamer to core gamer and it wasn't adverts that were responsible for that which you say is 100% responsible. One important factor combined with those all important adverts is word of mouth and at the end of the day most casual gamers who own the console wouldn't really recommend it, would they. Again, I never argued that casual sales

weren't important but most casual gamers aren't interested in the games that Wii U offers and in a lot of cases, many casual gamers don't enjoy games AT ALL. Are you saying they should just buy Wii U. Also, again you assume that I think that the term casual gamer is negative - but I never said that, this time or the last time. The problem is that in order to get sales nintendo needs to offer the

full spectrum of games including 'mature' games and others. 'Ignorance is bliss' - yes and most people who own Ps4 are happy with it. You make the argument again that I think ignorance is bad but I never said that. And if they knew everything Wii U offered they still probably wouldn't buy it. Also if tv ads are so good why is Ps4 and xbone not beating 3DS which has less adverts played

(still a lot, just less). You said 'what does ignorance have to do with sales'. Er, everything. You said it yourself, if they knew what they were buying then they probably wouldn't but they wouldn't buy Wii U either.

Also, how many casuals do you think will be converted? The Wii had 100mil sales and converted only a few thousand casual gamers (still impressive). And I did refute your argument actually, you just ignored it. I said what reason do many casuals have to buy Wii U if they don't really care, odds are they already own a games console e.g. Wii and don't see the point when they already own the games

they want. And you also forget that their is a third category: non-gamers who just don't want games. What reason do any of these people have to buy it; especially if its so expensive; especially if they don't care; especially if they already own one; especially if they have more important things to focus on in their lives. In addition, if they do buy Wii U, why would they buy the next home console

in about 4-5 years. Most people, these days laugh at nintendo because of ignorance, including the adverts. Everyone has a perception of nintendo and gaming and tv adverts wont change that. Yes I agree that casual sales are important, after all they are the maority, but nintendo need something that will appeal to them and how can they do that if they don't have it. This includes games and gimmicks.

You also say that you didn't put words in my mouth. Ok, then why did you say it - it had no relevance and didn't refute anything I said (neither did anything else you said either). Nintendo need to focus on the core gamers at the moment as it isn't just about sales - you also forget just how high the number of core gamers is and how important reputation is to nintendo. You also forget that critics