i say roy is a mixture of two peeps.ike,and marth(in my opinion)thats what makes roy unique.(also in my opinion) i mean,hes got ikes strength and marths speed.he can also counter like the two,but hes a close catagory to marth than ike.he has a stronger hitbox than marth,not to mention stronger upB than marth.conclusion,roy is his own man. but agree with me that LUCINA is a clone to marth.