thank you raimondz. the mml editor works good. i can use it with ease now. idownloaded your litterbox and gave it a test run. it looks good also. it also looks fun. if you dont mind i would have a bunch of questions for you how would i contact you. ?s like how to make and use as a 'beep' how do i get a song into a game etc. you did a great job with this i look forward to using it. thank